BREAKING. The SABC in a Hlaudi Motsoeneng crisis, broadcasts a surreal discussion referring only to 'Number One' and 'Number Two'.

At, and inside the SABC, the words "Number One" and "Number Two" have different meanings than for a five year old - and viewers not clued up would have been clueless today if they tuned in for an SABC talk show.

On the SABC's 24-hour TV news channel, SABC News (DStv 404), both the interviewer and guest talked in code, using "Number One" (South African president Jacob Zuma), and "Number Two" (the matricless acting chief operating officer (COO) Hlaudi Motsoeneng - and which made for a surreal viewing and listening experience.

The beleaguered SABC's acting chief operating officer (COO), described as a "semi-illiterate corrupt liar" is mired in controversy and scandal following a damning report into the SABC and Hlaudi Motsoeneng by South Africa's Public Protector.

The Public Protector's report released on Monday found that Hlaudi Motsoeneng who gets a R2.4 million salary lied about his qualifications and is implicated in maladministration, abuse of power, fraud, and irregular hirings and firings of SABC staff.

The Public Protector's report says that Hlaudi Motsoeneng "should never have been appointed at the SABC". Thuli Madonsela also said its worrying that Hlaudi Motsoeneng's personnel file disappeared. The Public Protector recommended that Hlaudi Motsoeneng urgently be replaced by someone qualified.

A shocking and independent PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC) skills audit report released earlier this month found that a large number of SABC staff don't even have personnel files.

Zola Majavu appeared on SABC News' Question Time today and spoke to Mpho Tsedu.about the often buzed-about relationship and "direct line" between Jacob Zuma  who is the "first citizen" and called "Number One" by security forces and Hlaudi Motsoeneng who've risen to occupy the number two highest executive spot at the SABC.

"Whether he has a direct line to Number One I wouldn't know, but I cannot imagine that his personal relationship with Number One is such that it supplants due process and procedures. Remember this man ascended from being an announcer to being Number Two through different SABC boards, different CEOs. And to date he still occupies the position that he occupies," said Zola Majavu.

"It would be a sad day if people are scared to touch him when he has broken the law simply because of his connections. I do not believe in all fairness to him and to Number One that can be correct," said Zola Majavu.